So you're saying it would suck to lose the time you and others got to spend... Guess we should just ignore all the people who COULDN'T have any time even if they wanted to, huh? Wonder which situation is more fair. Hmm. Guess that early time in a server launch IS valuable, isn't it?
"The hellish climb", oh please. I'll just ignore that.
Love your tone, brother. You argue with teens all day or something? If you actually read what I typed, I even said that I'd be willing to have wacky freeze my account, and to add, if it means that people could catch up. Why would you invalidate that my progress isn't harsh when archers have literally half the amount of characters made for both mages and thieves? There's a reason why there's such a disparity in levels between the top 10 archers on the server, and it's not because of timezones. Rank 1 is 46 while rank 10 is level 31. There's a reason for that. Try the class out some time, maybe you'll understand.
Completely baseless and almost laughable enough to invalidate anything you have to say.
"Laughable" Why do you type like that? Invalidated because of what? Because you said so? Laughable. I posted this to have a side for non-wipers and you're trying to sound like you're above everyone else that's in the opposition. From the general chat alone, most wipers are either mages/thieves. I'm not hating on the people that play them or the classes themselves but it's an observation.[/QUOTE]
We're not talking about the wipe benefiting individuals. We're talking about it benefiting the server as a whole. Having opinions is nice, but it's undeniable fact that the last two weeks have a been an uneven shitshow. Also, the high level players would be the ones needing to make up the most ground for a wipe and yet they still support it so... kind of invalidates your first point of wipers having nothing to lose, huh?
So you're saying you know what's best for the server more than Wacky? And I don't even know what "the high level players would be the ones needing to make up the most ground for a wipe" means. Care to elaborate on that? Maybe it's the wording. The server hasn't even been up for 24 hours straight yet and you guys want to give an ultimatum. There hasn't been any time since the server re-opened to know whether or not there really is a net loss in player count.
Then why is it a big deal to wipe "to those that had already spent time on their characters"? This argument goes both ways, but at least with a wipe, everyone is even.
Everyone being even is the only thing that you've said that bears any weight.
If it's so incredibly painful and impossible to understand why a server that has had considerably less than 50% uptime needs to start over after being fixed, then yeah I don't know what can be said about them. Rerelease hype would bring back so many, and in my opinion, would be more people in the long run, but I know that's a moot point because there's no way to know for sure one way or another, so I don't bring this up. However, this point of "lost players if wipe" seems to be an obsession with non-wipers. Either way, there are people lost, but at least one path leads to an even start.
An even start doesn't guarantee that people will suddenly start playing by the masses. Like I've said before, you can't hide a bad launch, it already happened. Do you play any other games? Let me give an example. Street Fighter V had one of the worst releases a mainstream fighting game has ever seen. Years later, even with a rerelease of the game under a new title, the game's initial release is still tainted to this day and people still won't touch the game even if has improved by a large margin. No, they didn't get the people that were put-off back, but did that mean that newer players didn't start playing? They did. It's a matter of time. If people were already put-off by the release of the server, what's going to make them come back now? I'm speaking of people that aren't as entitled as you and the rest of the top players. New people will join, there have been even when the server was down. Just because your friends don't want to play anymore, doesn't mean that you're the only people who matter. Hold that.
So what does that say about the people who would leave if there was a wipe? I guess they're not too hung up on "caring enough about the server and its well-being" huh? Sounds like they care more about their individual progress.
Alright, so answer me this: if two months down the line the server was to go down again, maybe for even longer, are you going to ask for a wipe then?
Oh, you mean how people were punished for the downtime they had no control over?
What? Do you even know what the word punished means? They were unlucky, yes, I can sympathize with that. It's not the same as deleting everyone's account. Lost time is not the same as time made up.